As we go into western New York, we find that the fortifications are not built so well. They are very poorly built, because in the Book of Mormon, they only had a few years to go up into that area and settle as they waited for the big day at Hill Cumorah. And so the forts here are not anywhere near as nicely made as they are in the Ohio. An this is an Indiana fort. As you can see how nice it is. Again look at the size of it. Huge earth berms. These were taken time. These were engineered walls. The walls made of different layers of clay and gravel and earth. They were made to last. Because they lived here for a long time. But not in western New York. That was a short timespan for the Hopewell people.